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Open Mike 30/09/25

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  1. Bearded Git 2

    Labour in the UK has attacked billionaires who are undermining net zero targets.

    Labour is in a fight against “global network of rightwing billionaires” who want to undermine net zero for their “vested interests”, said energy secretary Ed Miliband….he said that the Conservatives and Reform UK were “importing a net zero culture war” and that accelerating the green transition would be key to winning the argument with the public.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/29/labour-must-fight-right-wing-billionaires-undermining-net-zero-ed-miliband

    Miliband recognises that the unions in Britain have also undermined progress to Net Zero by arguing to continue fossil fuel extraction because this involves high paid unionised jobs. His solution is to require unionisation of jobs associated with Net Zero, especially those in renewable energy.

    "Miliband will also promise to accelerate unionisation of the green energy sector – amid a backlash among trade unions on the drive to net zero which they have said comes at a cost of highly paid unionised jobs in oil and gas. The energy secretary has come in for fierce criticism from some unions, including GMB and Unite, over the risk to the jobs for workers particularly in the North Sea."

    The government is set to require offshore wind developers to pay into a skills fund to support oil and gas workers, apprentices or school leavers to move into offshore wind.. …he will pledge to create a “fair worker charter”, which will mean that companies which receive public funding will have to guarantee fair pay, flexible working and access to unionisation."

    Labour in NZ could learn a lot from the Labour UK approach. Hipkins is making a lot of sense right now in relation to this issue on RNZ’s Morning Report, starting at about 8.06am-worth a listen.

    • Ad 2.1

      Certainly helped that petrol and diesel car sales in the UK are down to under 60% by last year. Back in 2020 petrol and diesel market share was 80%. That's a whole bunch of car companies selling the narrative for you.

      Record number of electric cars were sold in UK during 2024 | Automotive industry | The Guardian

      Also UK's total electricity generation is now down to 40% from fossil fuels.

      That's a whole bunch of electricity generators and retailers selling the narrative for you:

      National Grid: Live

      • Bearded Git 2.1.1

        Excellent Ad.

        “The number of new cars sold in the UK rose by 2.6% in 2024 to 1.95m, according to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) lobby group. Of those, 19.6% were electric, up from 16.5% a year earlier.”

        That puts NZ to shame.

        • Ad 2.1.1.1

          I was also flagging that we are in a much darker place now than the UK.

          Our scope of government is now very small. Most corporate entities now successfully resist reform:

          – Fonterra and Dairy NZ and Federated Farmers resisting water reform at all costs

          – The Big 4 electricity retailers resisting electricity market reform

          – 3 main alcoholic drink suppliers, happy to weaponise any little hearing

          – The top 2 airports, and 1 main airline, resisting each other and nay price competition

          – 2 meat producers, 2 horticultural foods providers, 1 dominant milk company

          – The top 2 insurers, and just 1 main health insurer

          – 2 councils covering 50% of the population

          – 3 fuel retailers

          – 3 main banks covering about 78% of all local banking, continuing to chip away via Willis

          – 2 supermarket chains successfully resisting anything

          – 4 constructors, employing about 80% of the construction workforce

          You know the rest. All of them have successfully resisted reform, some inciting massive protest against government.

          – For some reason related to low union membership and 5% of New Zealand owning about 40% of all the assets and most of the directorships of the companies and entities above.

          … against all that we have a shrinking state with weakening capacity to cope let alone design and execute new and effective regulation of any of them.

  2. PsyclingLeft.Always 3

    Batshit crazy. Well..yes!

    The viral drift of misinformation

    Kiwi vaccinologist Helen Petousis-Harris describes the White House press conference on autism, vaccines and pregnant women as "batshit crazy stuff".

    It is a similar sentiment to hosts of medical professionals around the world, who are ringing alarm bells over the US President's podium pronouncements of medical misinformation.

    "Of course what goes down in the United States doesn't stay in the United States, so it's not something we can sort of close our eyes and pretend is just happening there," says Petousis-Harris.

    "It certainly travels faster than any virus we've come across.

    "Those narratives overflow to here, and distrust in academia, for example, can occur regardless of where you are."

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/574404/the-viral-drift-of-misinformation

    And of course here in NZ we have an anti Science Govt which has slashed Science….IMO leading a dumbing down. (apart from their drive for Science as a Commercial aspect..IE money : (

    • PsyclingLeft.Always 3.1

      Further to batshit crazy,trump et al, including NZ's own maga drillers. A good Newsroom article by someone I have read for many years..Dr Kevin Trenberth Climate Scientist.

      You can lead people to data, but you can’t make them think

      Scientific evidence for human-induced climate change is beyond dispute, so why is disinformation still so rife?

      Comment: A new analysis issued by the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine has found that the evidence linking rising greenhouse gas emissions to negative human health outcomes is “beyond scientific dispute”.

      This report was carried out rapidly in response to threats by the US administration to reverse the 2009 declaration, known as the endangerment finding, which determined that carbon dioxide, methane and other greenhouse gases threaten human health and can be regulated under the Clean Air Act.

      The US has already withdrawn from the Paris Agreement, an international treaty on climate change adopted in 2015 to limit global warming to below 2C, preferably 1.5C compared to pre-industrial levels.

      https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/09/25/you-can-lead-people-to-data-but-you-cant-make-them-think/

      IMO I find as ever, the antivax conspiracist….quite often also climate deniers

      • Ad 3.1.1

        Last year I tried to defend Biden as a great president, until I realised that by the time Trump leaves office in 2028 he will have dominated US and world politics since at least 2016 ie 12 years, and massively and permanently so.

        Whatever our mental and theoretical framing was in 2016, it's not working now and will work even less in 2028.

        • Incognito 3.1.1.1

          Whatever our mental and theoretical framing was in 2016, it's not working now and will work even less in 2028.

          The scary thing is that the LLMs feeding the current AI [gen-AI] hype have been trained on that and future versions will too, i.e., GIGO.

  3. SPC 4

    The government wants cover for its flawed gas policy.

    They are clearly failing to attract interest in exploring for gas and would like to pretend this is because of Labour policy.

    If they want more gas for local use in the next 10 years they have to talk to Methanex. Then the future of gas is renewable gas.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-urges-labour-leader-chris-hipkins-to-commit-to-offshore-gas-exploration/7KU5AMPDERGXPMTL657PZCI6HE/

  4. gsays 5

    Mr Thumb is asking for bipartisanship on allowing looking for unobtanium.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/574530/prime-minister-christopher-luxon-asks-labour-leader-chris-hipkins-to-support-offshore-gas-exploration

    That should be an easy yes as most of the korero is that it's gone, not there.

    The key is what do Labour ask for in return?

    Obviously a big increase in the % the government gets in commission on discovery.

    But what else?

    Reinstatement of the Pay Equity rollbacks?

    Reinstatement of Maori Health Authority?

    Radical revamp of tax system?

    ….

    • tc 5.1

      Great opportunity for chippie to explain the reality v coalitions maga like drill baby drill bs they banged on about.

      If it was there in economically extractable amounts they'd be knocking the government doors down.

      NZ need to have it explained they got played by the likes of jones etc just as the voters in usa did.

      • Psych Nurse 5.1.1

        I well remember sitting next to an eletrical engineer on a flight from Singapore, who was coming to NZ to join an oil drilling rig off Southland, to work on repairs as it was towed to its next destination. "Was there anything there ?". "Its been plugged, will be back when economically viable".

  5. Kay 6

    Well, at least we're all safe now from the ravaging hoards.

    The coalition Government has maintained an unapologetic stance to its tough on crime approach, in the face of a surging prison population and skyrocketing costs

    New annual justice sector projections released in June show a much steeper rise in the expected prison population than previous projections, taking into account the impacts of the coalition’s law and order policies.

    https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/09/29/prison-population-reaches-new-all-time-high/

    We have a high imprisonment rate compared to the rest of the OECD.

    Māori are overrepresented at every stage in the criminal justice system.

    Our reoffending rates are high.

    Most people that are in the criminal justice system have been abused.

    https://www.justice.govt.nz/justice-sector-policy/key-initiatives/key-initiatives-archive/hapaitia-te-oranga-tangata/

    Debunking the RW deliberate misinformation that the majority are imprisioned for violent crimes.

    I think most people will agree there is a small group of prisoners who need to be incarcerated to protect society, due to the nature of their offending.

    I've experienced being institutionalised (not in prison, but the effect is the same) so completely understand that unecessary incarceration is completely counterproductive to any sort of rehabilitation. I can confidently say that a lot of re-offending is due to needing to return to the place they were institutionalised because it's easier to be told what to do and when to do it. I really wish this was acknowledged more, because less institutionalisation = less reoffending.

    There are plenty of alternatives for a lot of crimes, plus the punishment of just having a criminal conviction that makes getting employment near impossible, and problems travelling abroad is more than enough. (Although, having employment is vital for rehab, so not sure what the solution is there.)

    • Obtrectator 6.1

      What about a Rehabilitation of Offenders Act such as the UK has had now for over half a century? After a certain time without reoffending you'd no longer have to disclose most past convictions. Devil is in the detail of course, but that's the guts of it.

      • aj 6.1.1

        I read this a while ago and it resonated very strongly with where we are. Sorry,
        Don’t have the link to the original author.

        Punishing people for crimes they commit is legitimate. Increasing punishments whilst doing nothing to improve the society our criminals are raised in is immoral. Increasing punishments whilst increasing hardship and forcing people into poverty is immoral.

        Saying that everyone has opportunities for a good life and then removing opportunities, support systems and facilities specifically to support people doing it tough is immoral.

        Removing access to emergency housing, reducing building of affordable housing, forcing people on to the street is immoral.

        You will never reduce crime by punishments, you must fix the cause, something this government does not understand. Yes we need to send people to prison sometimes but it is immoral to build more prisons while forcing people to live on the street whilst giving tax breaks to the wealthy, tobacco companies and businesses.

        The agenda is always to divert the money that the government gets from taxes away from public sector employees who provide services directly to the public. Instead, this money must go into the hands of business owners as profits and to their private sector employees as wages for delivering a shadow form of those formerly public services.

        They're not really about small government or efficiency at all. They're about enriching their own social class by enforcing this more circuitous flow of money that now includes a profit extraction stage that adds no extra social value at all, but rather substracts from the sum of social value because the services provided become inferior.

      • arkie 6.1.2

        We have the similar Clean Slate act, championed by Green MP Nandor Tanczos which became law in 2004:

        The Criminal Records (Clean Slate) Act 2004 is an Act of Parliament in New Zealand administered by the Ministry of Justice. It allows for a criminal record to be hidden from the public if the person is eligible.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Records_(Clean_Slate)_Act_2004

    • Incognito 6.2

      The increased prison population in NZ is entirely by design and an implicit KPI of the Coalition:

      • Abolish the previous Labour Government’s prisoner reduction target. [Coalition Agreement New Zealand National Party & ACT New Zealand]

      Some people who voted for the Coalition might have second thoughts.

      Auckland Prison at Paremoremo, under Auckland's Unitary Plan, is designated to hold up to 681 inmates.

      The Department of Corrections, under the fast-track legislation, is seeking to change that to 1220 inmates.

      […]

      The Department said the country's prison population is rising and it had a responsibility to manage it safely.

      But residents say they were only notified in July and the plans break earlier promises.

      […]

      He [Andy Riley, from the Paremoremo Ratepayers and Residents Association] said the community was blindsided and feel frustrated.

      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/574483/auckland-prison-expansion-plans-under-fast-track-legislation-surprises-paremoremo-residents

      This is in Mark Mitchell’s electorate [MM is the Minister of Corrections].

  6. joe90 7

    Quick, more tax breaks!

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    President Donald Trump said in a Truth Social post on Monday he will be imposing a 100% tariff “on any and all movies that are made outside of the United States.”

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/29/economy/trump-movie-tariff

  7. SPC 8

    The proposal from the Council of Trade Unions (CTU) would see the dividends the government gets as a major shareholder of the generator-retailers – or gen-tailers – used to fully buy the companies back over time.

    Have they considered what the dividends being paid on the privately held shares is, compared to the current cost of public debt (and then the amount of income tax they receive from that dividend income)?

    There may be little real cost to getting control in one go.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/574564/unions-call-for-return-of-electricity-generators-to-public-ownership

  8. Incognito 9

    "From cotton swabs and bandages to hospital beds and advanced imaging equipment, we need to make sure that every dollar is delivering good value for patients," Brown said.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/574574/goverment-changes-how-new-zealand-buys-medical-equipment

    As a patient I couldn’t care less about the ‘value’ of those items as long as they enable delivery of good care for me. Get your priorities right [without capitalised first letter], Minister Simeon Brown.

    • gsays 9.1

      Patient, how quaint.

      Nowadays you are seen as a client, a consumer or a statistic.

      Anyone would think you own and fund the health system/sarc.

      • Incognito 9.1.1

        To be fair to Brown, he did seem to find or remember his speaking notes:

        Brown tells us the split between Health NZ and Pharmac will provide clarity for the market, and that should be good for the health budget.

        “There are definitely efficiencies to be found,” he says. “We want to make sure we’re getting the best devices so that we can deliver the best care for patients.”

        https://newsroom.co.nz/2025/09/30/ministerial-compromise-seeks-efficiencies-in-buying-1-5b-of-medical-devices/

        I see myself as a human and as a patient when I’m unwell enough to seek and require medical care, which is when, and only then, I’d go to hospital. I know this is an unusual way of looking at it but so be it.

    • feijoa 9.2

      Centralising the purchasing was surely one of the pluses of Andrew Little's changes in health. Rather than multiple DHBs doing it. It does make sense.

      HOWEVER, I am suspicious of the hugely increased role Pharmac is now going to have, and if they have the right skills there for equipment purchasing. Seymour is the minister and I would imaging he is strongly connected to Big Pharma. Pharmac is getting to be quite a powerful little organisation. Hmmmm.

    • SPC 10.1

      The government has explained.

      Canada, Oz and UK are led by the "left". France by a centrist.

      Germany and Italy have right wing governments and have not recognised Palestine.

      They are not left. They are further to the right than the governments of Germany and Italy.

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